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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jan 29, 2012 1:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

Has someone already mentioned this here? In the booklet for Road Trips 2/2, Blair Jackson quotes a 2009 Bob Weir interview about how he came up with the bus came by and I got on second verse for The Other One on 2-4-68, the very night that Neal Cassady died, and then they performed that new verse for the first time at the 2-14-68 show.

I read that yesterday without thinking twice about it, but then I was listening to the tasty 24-bit remastering of the 11-10-67 Shrine Exposition Hall show, and of course it's the FIRST verse of The Other One that started different, while the bus came by second verse was sung in November 1967 with precisely the same lyrics it's had since. How could they get that wrong?

More on the evolution of the lyrics here:

http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/other1.html

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jan 29, 2012 2:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

This HAS been addressed on the Forum before! In a very long thread, actually....
http://www.archive.org/post/337334/first-too-referenced-in-pl-bw-interview-below

Weir has always told that story; that's the way he likes to remember it. Blair Jackson just decided to go with the "story" rather than with what's on the tapes. I guess, when you're writing for the band, you have to make a few compromises!

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Poster: Judge TOOTMO Date: Jan 31, 2012 12:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

"Weir has always told that story; that's the way he likes to remember it. "

Or, maybe after 40-something years, his memory is not as accurate as tape-recordings. I would imagine that you have listened to thousands more shows than Mr. Weir has. Phil is about the only one I get a vibe from that says they went back and listened to earlier shows. And, I think that was done partly as a way of selecting items for the Fallout album and for his book, ISOTS.

I just don't see anything nefarious in the fact that a 62 year-old man can't remember when exactly he switched lyrics 40 years earlier?
I can't recall when I first coined "80's haties" and that was just a few years ago.

My guess is that 20 year-old Bob was more interested in getting laid and high than preserving dates for posterity. I just can't imagine that he ever imagined that people would not only be listening to this band 45 years later but fine-tooth combing it the way we do.

Enjoy,
Judge TOOTMO

http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-11-10.sbd.sacks.1612.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 31, 2012 1:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

Nicely judged!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jan 31, 2012 2:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

I have to ask: what does 80s haties mean? Or am I being dense?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 31, 2012 2:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

I am one...

Does that clear it up?

90s hater too, FWIW.

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Poster: Judge TOOTMO Date: Feb 1, 2012 1:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

Is your "disk" really skippin? Or, a you just trying to juice your Member Posts? "Somebody chasin' ya, Sheriff?"

Judge TOOTMO

And yes, the former prime minister is definitely an 80's haties!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jan 31, 2012 3:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

...meaning you wouldn't be among the nineties fineties?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 31, 2012 2:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

"...preserving dates for posterity"

This has always been a goal of mine; no, not because of any interest in being tucked away in a pyramid (get it?)...just by way of explaining my interest in the feminine posters.

;)

Once more for emphasis:

;)

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jan 31, 2012 2:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

Whatever are you smoking today, my friend?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 31, 2012 4:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s....related to over-medication?

The first to notice my change in medication schedule! [I wanted to say "bingo" one more time, but shant...]

The award goes to Lou!

[Yes, in fact, laid up for 24 hrs due to a disk issue...no, not that kind of disk, L5/S1 to be precise...I'll be back on my feet and out of your hair in a day or two; but, it's nice to know your friends are just where you left them, ya know? Seriously.]

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jan 31, 2012 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s....related to over-medication?

Ah, so it wasn't my imagination. Good to know, though I'm sorry you've had to go through that. Good luck with the convalescence!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jan 29, 2012 3:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

Thanks, LiA! I thought maybe.

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Poster: thekind78 Date: Jan 29, 2012 2:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total b.s. in Blair Jackson's notes for Road Trips 2/2 (Carousel 2-14-68)

Lou, I wondered the same thing.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1968-01-23.sbd.miller.97343.sbeok.flac16

Not quite as cosmic as the introduction to "Road Trips" implies.